as well if they go ahead with this launch because china just, a day before they've announced this possible rocket launch, had been to see them. there had been a politburo member going to pyongyang trying to convince them not to carry out this rocket launch, and yet they've gone ahead with it anyway. certainly we can see relations souring a little there. >> paula, when they've had launcheses that have failed in the past, do they admit the failure? >> well, you know, that's interesting, anderson, they actually did admit back in april the launch was a failure. that was the first time ever that we'd heard those words from pyongyang, the fact that something had failed. in the past, back in 2006, 2009, they had claimed domestically that it was a grand success and that they managed to put a satellite up into orbit. internationally we fwhoo that wasn't the case and they were failures but internally they always wanted to say things were a success. that changed in april probably because they had the international media camped out in pyongyang as well. so they couldn't necessarily lie about it. but a